Daily Archives: May 1, 2013

Why I think the Millennium is now

There are a number of different interpretations of Revelation 20:1-10. The one I want to discuss today is the one that says that the Millennium began during Jesus’ lifetime on Earth and is still going on now.

My church (Roman Catholic) has pronounced only briefly on this subject and only to state that the Second Coming will be followed closely by the Final Judgment.  If you believe the Millennium will occur between the Great Tribulation and Final Judgment, God bless you. I don’t and I’m going to explain here why I don’t. If that will offend you, I hope you will do us both a favor and move on to more congenial blogs. Thank you.

Revelation 20:1-10 can be read on-line:

In my Bible studies, I have found strong evidence that the Millennium began before Jesus ascended and will continue most likely until the 5th Trumpet and Bowl events. Below is the timeline I made. I will expand on each of the ten items individually below.

15 Traditional Millennium timeline

As I understand it, the Post-Tribulation/Pre-Final Judgment Millennium interpretation is based largely on the assumption that the Revelation visions are chronologically consecutive. I can’t agree. Revelation 12:1-9 seems to make it obvious that we ought not to expect a consecutive chronology in John’s visions.

  1. Sign in the sky announcing the birth of Jesus.
  2. War in Heaven; Satan and his followers fall to Earth.
  3. Satan tries to destroy Jesus as a baby.
  4. Jesus is born.
  5. Jesus ascends.
  6. Woman changes from being Mary, Mother of Jesus, to being the Church.
  7. Persecution of early Christians is conflated with End Times flight from Jerusalem.
  8. War in Heaven.

N.b., We know 2 and 8 happened long before Jesus’ birth, because Satan was on Earth to tempt Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

15a War in Heaven

15b Temptation by snake

Apart from chronology, I can find only one other justification for a Post-Tribulation Millennium interpretation, which is that the forehead/hand marks are part of the Tribulation prophecies.

Revelation 20:4 “I saw the souls of those … who had not worshiped the beast or its image nor had accepted its mark on their foreheads or hands. They came to life and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”

Evidence supporting a “Millennium is now” interpretation

1. Revelation 20:1-10 never says Jesus will reign on Earth.

  • The thrones in the Millennial passage could be those of the 24 elders [Rev 4:4].
  • The martyrs of Revelation 20:4 could be the fifth seal souls [Rev 6:9].

2. Satan appears to have had free reign on Earth from the time he was thrown out of Heaven until some time after he tempted Jesus.

15c Temptation of Jesus

But once Jesus began his ministry, He spent quite a lot of time casting demons out of people, something He specifically said was proof that “the kingdom of God has come upon you.” Right after, He adds, “How can anyone enter a strong man’s house and steal his property, unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.” [Matt 12:28-29]

3. Very soon after his triumphal entry into Jerusalem, Jesus said, “Now the ruler of this world will be driven out.” [John 12:31]

4. During the Last Supper, He said He would not drink wine again until the kingdom of God had come. He drank wine right before He died.

15d The Kingdom Comes

5. The grammar in the Millennium passage itself suggests that, at the time John had this vision (ca 90 AD), Satan had already been locked in the abyss.

  • John saw that an angel had seized, had tied up, had thrown, had locked over and had sealed Satan into the abyss.
  • Then, John learned that, after the thousand years was completed, Satan would be released.

15e Satan Locked

6. It seems fairly clear to me that the main reason for “binding the strongman” was to allow Christianity to spread.

  • Jesus told his disciples, “This gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come.” [Matt 24:14]
  • The reason cited for locking Satan in the abyss is, “So that it could no longer lead the nations astray until the thousand years are completed.” [Rev 20:3]

15f The Millennium

If you’ve been reading my Bible studies right along, you’ll know that I believe the Rapture will be the Second Coming, the “Jesus in the clouds” event, and that it will occur on the day of the Sixth Seal. This has nothing to do with today’s discussion, but I need to stick it in here so my timeline thing is complete.

15g The Rapture

7. It appears that Satan will be released as part of the fifth Trumpet/Bowl events. I noticed something really interesting here: It says the passage to the abyss will be opened, which would allow Satan to come out on to Earth. But it never says Satan will be unchained. This fits with my interpretation that it was Jesus’ death that put the chains on Satan. That was a once for all event; the chaining would not be undo-able.

15h Satan unlocked

8. In Medieval History, I learned that a lot of Christians expected the Second Coming at the end of Y1K. This would make sense only if they interpreted the chaining and locking of Satan to have been accomplished by Jesus during His lifetime. As for “a thousand years” clearly not having meant a thousand literal revolutions of the Earth around the Sun, I have no problem with it. Elsewhere in the Bible, one thousand is used to symbolize a large, but indefinite quantity. We don’t insist that Psalm 50:10 must mean that God owns the cattle on no more and no less than one thousand hills, do we?

15i Armageddon

9. In Revelation 17:7-11, an angel says THREE times that the beast of the abyss existed once, but now exists no longer, and yet it will come again. Since the angel was speaking to John in his own present time, it seems patently obvious to me that Satan had already been locked into the abyss before 90 AD and would not be released until the Great Tribulation events the angel was describing.

15j Final Judgment

10. This interesting graphic further strengthens my case that the Millennium is now.

15 Parallel between Israel and Christian Church

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The Obama administration is like so over that Benghazi thing

May 1, 2013: Jay Carney says, “Let’s be clear. Benghazi happened a long time ago.”

Tweets:

  • Jay Carney wins award for most pathetic comment of the day. “Benghazi was a long time ago” <- Media PR fail.
  • “Benghazi happened a long time ago.” Trans: Plse stop asking me about it.
  • Tell that to the victims’ familes, you cockroach.
  • This coming from the most transparent WH eva.
  • Shorter Obama Admin: When Benghazi happened, it was too soon to talk about it. Now, eight months later, it’s too late to talk about.
  • Give Carney a break. Benghazi recedes into the mists of time after you’ve allowed the 1st terrorist bombing on US soil since 9/11.
  • Carney: “Benghazi happened like a long time before Obama called to congratulate Jason Collins.”
  • Benghazi vs. Newtown. Expiration date on outrage over dead Americans depends on political advantage to Obama.
  • Those bumps in the road look very small in the post-election rear-view mirror.
  • Odd…George W Bush’s Presidency was a long time ago also and yet Carney & Obama can’t stop talking about that.
  • 9/11/2001 happened a long time ago…… remind me why we are in the middle east still?
  • How long did liberal politicians and its media bedevil, harangue and scream after the Watergate break-in?
  • By late this afternoon the Boston bombing will be “a long time ago.”

Sources:
http://twitchy.com/2013/05/01/cockroach-jay-carney-benghazi-happened-a-long-time-ago/

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Pope Francis tweets

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FORWARD to Atheism!

FORWARD to atheism

No religious freedom in military

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THE MAY DAY GRUDGE

Posted by Pistol Pete

Please answer this survey question:

When Michael ‘Sicko’ Moore poops,does he

a.Pay someone a large sum of money to wipe his but

b.Straddle the lawn sprinkler to use it as a bidet

c.Just pull his pants…he was just getting rid of the overflow

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The grifter asks Carly Rae Jepsen:’Hey,baby,how’d ya like to earn your former presidential kneepads?

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THIS IS A SIGHTING OF THE RARE MOOCHELLE SHARK

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SADLY,ONE OF THESE CREATURES WASHED UP ON THE SHORE IN RHODE ISLAND.CAUSE OF DEATH WAS DETERMINED TO BE SEQUESTER CUTS CAUSED BY REPUBLICANS

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I DON’T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM…I JUST GO WITH IT.

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Values

Tim Tebow

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Please do

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Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams

Spy Kids 2

2002 PG 100 minutes

In this sequel to the hit sci-fi family adventure, spy kids Carmen and and Juni Cortez team up with two other pint-sized secret agents, Gary and Gerti Giggles. The foursome travels to a mysterious island to save the world from an evil scientist.

CtH: I know … you’re thinking what the heck, right? But this is a FUN movie. Goofy plot and characters played with tongues firmly in cheek … kinda reminiscent of the tone of the Nutty Professor. Drool-worthy hunk-fest Antonio Banderas is really funny … who knew?  And the photography, special effects and Special Features are very well done. I especially liked the 10 minute feature by the director/writer on how to make a movie cheaply and the part where they showed how they stuck two kid actors 200 feet up on actual mountain tops to fight off a horde of CGI skeletons. I love to see behind the scenes stuff and these were unusually informative and interesting.

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